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rmscheck
Posts:290
 | | 06/14/2012 2:03 AM |
| Anyone know whats the meaning of the first two lines the output upon viewing a user objects ACL?
Owner: Domain Admins Group: Domain Users
I figure its like the NTFS owner, but I would love some clarification. Reason being, I have a user object that shows:
Owner: Domain Admins Group: Domain Admins
It's different and the user is not a DA.. so I'm wondering how that happened, and how do I change it if need be?
Thanks.
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| Tony
Posts:172
 | | 06/14/2012 2:09 AM |
| I'm guessing the group is the Primary Group ID. Don't have access to AD right now, so can't check.
Tony
________________________________________ From: activedir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [activedir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rand Salazar [rmscheck08@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012 1:02 p.m. To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ActiveDir] DSACLS question
Anyone know whats the meaning of the first two lines the output upon viewing a user objects ACL?
Owner: Domain Admins Group: Domain Users
I figure its like the NTFS owner, but I would love some clarification. Reason being, I have a user object that shows:
Owner: Domain Admins Group: Domain Admins
It's different and the user is not a DA.. so I'm wondering how that happened, and how do I change it if need be?
Thanks.
List info: http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List info: http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| rmscheck
Posts:290
 | | 06/14/2012 2:16 AM |
| Yea, I checked that too, unless its another attribute, but on the Member Of tab, that problem object shows "Domain Users" for the primary group. Hmm..
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Tony Murray <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm guessing the group is the Primary Group ID. Don't have access to AD right now, so can't check. > > Tony > > ________________________________________ > From: activedir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [activedir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rand Salazar [rmscheck08@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012 1:02 p.m. > To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ActiveDir] DSACLS question > > Anyone know whats the meaning of the first two lines the output upon > viewing a user objects ACL? > > Owner: Domain Admins > Group: Domain Users > > I figure its like the NTFS owner, but I would love some clarification. > Reason being, I have a user object that shows: > > Owner: Domain Admins > Group: Domain Admins > > It's different and the user is not a DA.. so I'm wondering how that > happened, and how do I change it if need be? > > Thanks. > > List info: http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List info: http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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| adamsgreene
Posts:7
 | | 06/26/2012 8:22 PM |
| Those are the OWNER and primary GROUP of the creator. The primary group is not used. If the creator is an admin, the OWNER will be set to Administrators, Domain Admins, Schema Admins, or Enterprise Admins, depending on version of Windows and naming context ( http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc772912(v=ws.10).aspx). If the creator only has delegated access to create objects, the OWNER will show up as the actual user account creating the object. Note that the OWNER listed in the ntsecuritydescriptor of an object has the permission to rewrite the ACL. This is important.
Assume a delegated admin is put into a DelegatedAdmins group which is granted CCDC and WP on computer objects in an OU. If that admin creates an computer, then later is removed from the DelegatedAdmins group, they will not have any access to the computer objects in the OU. However, they will be able to just rewrite the ACL on the computer they created and give themselves permission. This is is even more relevant if you ever delegate the ability to create container/OU objects (not recommended).
So if you have delegated admins that are using native tools to create objects, you do need to cleanup the OWNER of the objects. Don't worry about the GROUP.
Adam
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Rand Salazar <rmscheck08@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yea, I checked that too, unless its another attribute, but on the > Member Of tab, that problem object shows "Domain Users" for the > primary group. Hmm.. > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Tony Murray <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I'm guessing the group is the Primary Group ID. Don't have access to AD > right now, so can't check. > > > > Tony > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: activedir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ > activedir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rand Salazar [ > rmscheck08@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012 1:02 p.m. > > To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [ActiveDir] DSACLS question > > > > Anyone know whats the meaning of the first two lines the output upon > > viewing a user objects ACL? > > > > Owner: Domain Admins > > Group: Domain Users > > > > I figure its like the NTFS owner, but I would love some clarification. > > Reason being, I have a user object that shows: > > > > Owner: Domain Admins > > Group: Domain Admins > > > > It's different and the user is not a DA.. so I'm wondering how that > > happened, and how do I change it if need be? > > > > Thanks. > > > > List info: http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > List info: http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > > List info: http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >
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