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coolandynet
Posts:20
 | | 03/11/2010 9:23 AM |
| >From last 3 days I am getting Kerberos Event ID:3 with below details in my Windows 2003 Ent Edi.+SP2 DC
Event Type: Error Event Source: Kerberos Event Category: None Event ID: 3 Date: 3/11/2010 Time: * 2:13:31 PM* User: N/A Computer: DC1 Description: A Kerberos Error Message was received: on logon session Client Time: Server Time: *8:43:31.0000 *3/11/2010 Z Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN Extended Error: Client Realm: Client Name: Server Realm: Domain.COM Server Name: dc1.domain.COM Target Name: dc1.domain.COM@domain.COM Error Text: File: 9 Line: b22 Error Data is in record data.
Strange thing is that, the server evetn time is now 2:13 PM but the in the event it is showing 8:43:31
I run W32time on the same DC and the result is
C:\>w32tm /tz Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_UNKNOWN Bias: *-330min* (UTC=LocalTime+Bias) [Standard Name:"India Standard Time" Bias:0min Date unspecified)] [Daylight Name:"India Standard Time" Bias:0min Date unspecified)]
Please guide me what need to be done to make time in sinc for KDC..
Cheers,
Andy Success is always Demanding.
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| tonyszko
Posts:121
 | | 03/11/2010 9:27 AM |
| On 3/11/2010 10:22 AM, Andy wrote: > Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN But this error indicates that you have a problem with configuration of service account or SPNs rather than time issue
-- Tomasz Onyszko http://www.w2k.pl/ - (PL) http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/tomek/ - (EN)
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| coolandynet
Posts:20
 | | 03/11/2010 9:36 AM |
| On internet I am getting same result that it is related with service account or SPN, But when I see the time details I though it might be related with time. any thought on this why it is showing different time??
Also I am not clear about how SA or SPN need to configure.
Cheers,
Andy Success is always Demanding.
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Tomasz Onyszko <t.onyszko@w2k.pl> wrote:
> On 3/11/2010 10:22 AM, Andy wrote: > >> Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN >> > But this error indicates that you have a problem with configuration of > service account or SPNs rather than time issue > > -- > Tomasz Onyszko > http://www.w2k.pl/ - (PL) > http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/tomek/ - (EN) >
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| kbatkbslpcom
Posts:144
 | | 03/11/2010 1:47 PM |
| If you want to quickly/easily verify the time across the DC's in your domain, try the following w32tm command on any (2003) domain controller
Below is just a subset from the DC's of one of the domains I manage (if you want all the details, just enter w32tm /monitor)
All those offsets on your DC's (comparing to the PDC emulator) should be small -- under 1-2 seconds (all those listed below are off much less than 1 second).
C:\>w32tm /monitor | find /i "NTP:" NTP: +0.0501636s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0217002s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0050036s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0134611s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0163209s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0036561s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0057342s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0127954s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0018019s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0001502s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0000218s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: +0.0063428s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local NTP: -0.0269724s offset from PDC-NAME.domain.local
Unless you have hardware issues on your DC's, the time on all of them should be no more than a few seconds off (I think Microsoft indicates no more than 5 seconds, assuming the DC's are able to communicate with each other).
I do have some virtual DC's that the time does vary by a large amount - I've seen as much as 12 seconds off - but usually it is no more than 3-4 seconds - and that time variance is dependent up on the load of the virtual host itself, which I have no particular control over.
-----Original Message----- From: activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org [mailto:activedir-owner@mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:36 AM To: t.onyszko@w2k.pl Cc: activedir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Kerberos, KDC time issue.
On internet I am getting same result that it is related with service account or SPN, But when I see the time details I though it might be related with time. any thought on this why it is showing different time??
Also I am not clear about how SA or SPN need to configure.
Cheers,
Andy Success is always Demanding.
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Tomasz Onyszko <t.onyszko@w2k.pl> wrote:
On 3/11/2010 10:22 AM, Andy wrote:
Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN
But this error indicates that you have a problem with configuration of service account or SPNs rather than time issue
-- Tomasz Onyszko http://www.w2k.pl/ - (PL) http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/tomek/ - (EN)
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| nbahta1
Posts:5
 | | 03/12/2010 5:14 AM |
| It looks as though your server time is being shown in ZULU time or GMT (UTC). The event time is therefore your local time which is 2:13 and the GMT (UTC) is 8:43. It looks like your timezone puts you 6hrs and 30 minutes ahead of GMT. So your time looks correct.
Nathaniel V Bahta MCS
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Andy <coolandy.net@gmail.com> wrote:
> On internet I am getting same result that it is related with service > account or SPN, But when I see the time details I though it might be related > with time. > any thought on this why it is showing different time?? > > Also I am not clear about how SA or SPN need to configure. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > Success is always Demanding. > > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Tomasz Onyszko <t.onyszko@w2k.pl>wrote: > >> On 3/11/2010 10:22 AM, Andy wrote: >> >>> Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN >>> >> But this error indicates that you have a problem with configuration of >> service account or SPNs rather than time issue >> >> -- >> Tomasz Onyszko >> http://www.w2k.pl/ - (PL) >> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/tomek/ - (EN) >> > >
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| coolandynet
Posts:20
 | | 03/13/2010 9:21 AM |
| Thanks Brown and Nathaniel for clarifying me about the DC time. But the question/error remains same. I am not clear what steps I have to take to resolve this error.
I have run below command on the problematic DC but no luck. setspn -A DCname
I have gone through below thread but it is telling to just bypass this, I guess that is not an solution... http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverDS/thread/78f1026a-7531-4228-b00a-4a334810b539
I have also noticed that in my domain randomly DOMAIN users who are having administrator rights getting pop-up for username and password while opening event viewer or any other management MSC file. Some users are getting Access Denied error while saving files from internet\intranet to local drive/My Documents where they have full rights.
I am guessing that this error on DC is might be related with access issue faced by users. please help me to clear and resolve this. for more info I am pasting error logs here again.
Event Type: Error Event Source: Kerberos Event Category: None Event ID: 3 Date: 3/13/2010 Time: 2:33:09 PM User: N/A Computer: DCMUM1 Description: A Kerberos Error Message was received: on logon session Client Time: Server Time: 9:3:9.0000 3/13/2010 Z Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN Extended Error: Client Realm: Client Name: Server Realm: Domain.COM Server Name: cifs/172.100.1.11 Target Name: cifs/172.100.1.11@Domain.COM Error Text: File: 9 Line: b22 Error Data is in record data.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Event Type: Error Event Source: Kerberos Event Category: None Event ID: 3 Date: 3/13/2010 Time: 2:33:05 PM User: N/A Computer: DCMUM1 Description: A Kerberos Error Message was received: on logon session Client Time: Server Time: 9:3:5.0000 3/13/2010 Z Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN Extended Error: Client Realm: Client Name: Server Realm: Domain.COM Server Name: dcmum1.Domain.COM Target Name: dcmum1.Domain.COM@Domain.COM Error Text: File: 9 Line: b22 Error Data is in record data.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Event Type: Error Event Source: Kerberos Event Category: None Event ID: 3 Date: 3/13/2010 Time: 1:32:40 PM User: N/A Computer: DCMUM1 Description: A Kerberos Error Message was received: on logon session Client Time: Server Time: 8:2:40.0000 3/13/2010 Z Error Code: 0xd KDC_ERR_BADOPTION Extended Error: 0xc00000bb KLIN(0) Client Realm: Client Name: Server Realm: Domain.COM Server Name: host/dcmum1.Domain.com Target Name: host/dcmum1.Domain.com@Domain.COM Error Text: File: 9 Line: b22 Error Data is in record data.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: 30 15 a1 03 02 01 03 a2 0.¡....¢ 0008: 0e 04 0c bb 00 00 c0 00 ...»..À. 0010: 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 .......
Cheers,
Andy Success is always Demanding. Cheers,
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Nathaniel V Bahta < nathaniel.v.bahta@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It looks as though your server time is being shown in ZULU time or GMT > (UTC). The event time is therefore your local time which is 2:13 and the > GMT (UTC) is 8:43. It looks like your timezone puts you 6hrs and 30 > minutes > ahead of GMT. So your time looks correct. > > > Nathaniel V Bahta > MCS > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Andy <coolandy.net@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On internet I am getting same result that it is related with service >> account or SPN, But when I see the time details I though it might be related >> with time. >> any thought on this why it is showing different time?? >> >> Also I am not clear about how SA or SPN need to configure. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Andy >> Success is always Demanding. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Tomasz Onyszko <t.onyszko@w2k.pl>wrote: >> >>> On 3/11/2010 10:22 AM, Andy wrote: >>> >>>> Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN >>>> >>> But this error indicates that you have a problem with configuration of >>> service account or SPNs rather than time issue >>> >>> -- >>> Tomasz Onyszko >>> http://www.w2k.pl/ - (PL) >>> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/tomek/ - (EN) >>> >> >> >
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| skradel
Posts:54
 | | 03/13/2010 6:08 PM |
| One more thought - check your DNS PTRs. I see bare IP addresses in the logs below, and certainly you have (I hope) not registered any SPNs for IP addresses.
When establishing a session to a service, it is up to the client to decide what the name of that service is when talking to the KDC. I suspect a CIFS client will reverse-resolve an IP address first, so it can ask the KDC for a ticket to CIFS/somehost.somerealm.net or HOST/somehost.somerealm.net rather than CIFS/192.168.5.5. The latter would simply not be present in the security database.
Re. being prompted for credentials unexpectedly, it could be a variety of things. Missing UPNs / SPNs, bad time, bad DNS, most anything that could upset Kerberos. See if w32tm /monitor produces anything of interest. Don't worry about the timezone - worry about the time skew.
--Steve
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Andy <coolandy.net@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Brown and Nathaniel for clarifying me about the DC time. > But the question/error remains same. I am not clear what steps I have to > take to resolve this error. > > I have run below command on the problematic DC but no luck. > setspn -A DCname > > I have gone through below thread but it is telling to just bypass this, I > guess that is not an solution... > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverDS/thread/78f1026a-7531-4228-b00a-4a334810b539 > > I have also noticed that in my domain randomly DOMAIN users who are having > administrator rights getting pop-up for username and password while opening > event viewer or any other management MSC file. > Some users are getting Access Denied error while saving files from > internet\intranet to local drive/My Documents where they have full rights. > > I am guessing that this error on DC is might be related with access issue > faced by users. > please help me to clear and resolve this. for more info I am pasting error > logs here again. > > Event Type: Error > Event Source: Kerberos > Event Category: None > Event ID: 3 > Date: 3/13/2010 > Time: 2:33:09 PM > User: N/A > Computer: DCMUM1 > Description: > A Kerberos Error Message was received: > on logon session > Client Time: > Server Time: 9:3:9.0000 3/13/2010 Z > Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN > Extended Error: > Client Realm: > Client Name: > Server Realm: Domain.COM > Server Name: cifs/172.100.1.11 > Target Name: cifs/172.100.1.11@Domain.COM > Error Text: > File: 9 > Line: b22 > Error Data is in record data. > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > > Event Type: Error > Event Source: Kerberos > Event Category: None > Event ID: 3 > Date: 3/13/2010 > Time: 2:33:05 PM > User: N/A > Computer: DCMUM1 > Description: > A Kerberos Error Message was received: > on logon session > Client Time: > Server Time: 9:3:5.0000 3/13/2010 Z > Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN > Extended Error: > Client Realm: > Client Name: > Server Realm: Domain.COM > Server Name: dcmum1.Domain.COM > Target Name: dcmum1.Domain.COM@Domain.COM > Error Text: > File: 9 > Line: b22 > Error Data is in record data. > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > > Event Type: Error > Event Source: Kerberos > Event Category: None > Event ID: 3 > Date: 3/13/2010 > Time: 1:32:40 PM > User: N/A > Computer: DCMUM1 > Description: > A Kerberos Error Message was received: > on logon session > Client Time: > Server Time: 8:2:40.0000 3/13/2010 Z > Error Code: 0xd KDC_ERR_BADOPTION > Extended Error: 0xc00000bb KLIN(0) > Client Realm: > Client Name: > Server Realm: Domain.COM > Server Name: host/dcmum1.Domain.com > Target Name: host/dcmum1.Domain.com@Domain.COM > Error Text: > File: 9 > Line: b22 > Error Data is in record data. > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > Data: > 0000: 30 15 a1 03 02 01 03 a2 0.¡....¢ > 0008: 0e 04 0c bb 00 00 c0 00 ...»..À. > 0010: 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 ....... > > > Cheers, > > Andy > Success is always Demanding. > Cheers, > > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Nathaniel V Bahta > <nathaniel.v.bahta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It looks as though your server time is being shown in ZULU time or GMT >> (UTC). The event time is therefore your local time which is 2:13 and the >> GMT (UTC) is 8:43. It looks like your timezone puts you 6hrs and 30 >> minutes >> ahead of GMT. So your time looks correct. >> >> Nathaniel V Bahta >> MCS >> >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Andy <coolandy.net@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On internet I am getting same result that it is related with service >>> account or SPN, But when I see the time details I though it might be related >>> with time. >>> any thought on this why it is showing different time?? >>> >>> Also I am not clear about how SA or SPN need to configure. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Andy >>> Success is always Demanding. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Tomasz Onyszko <t.onyszko@w2k.pl> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 3/11/2010 10:22 AM, Andy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Error Code: 0x7 KDC_ERR_S_PRINCIPAL_UNKNOWN >>>> >>>> But this error indicates that you have a problem with configuration of >>>> service account or SPNs rather than time issue >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tomasz Onyszko >>>> http://www.w2k.pl/ - (PL) >>>> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/tomek/ - (EN) >>> >> > >
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