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| The bigger trick is getting yourself a client cert to get on Corpnet
wireless....
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Roger Seielstad
E-mail Geek
-----Original Message-----
From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:13 PM
To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)
Very Cool. I would love to see that list :-)
Wireless aircard and a tablet PC...you just gotta bring your own
connectivity that's all.
See ya next week!
Michael B. Smith wrote:
>I'm an Exchange MVP. We were invited to come up with a list of "why we
>hate to support SBS" about a month ago for submission to the SBS
>product team (apparently one of "our" product managers is across the
>hall from one of "your" product managers). I think we came up with 11
>specific items dealing mainly with Exchange/User management and the
>integration of ISA/RRAS. I'll see if I archived the list.
>
>I think the groups and the mailing lists are gonna be really quiet next
>week, with little connectivity on campus for us!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
>CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:31 PM
>To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)
>
>Amen brother.
>
>I wish though you would be more specific though as I just happen to be
>meeting with some folks next week and would love the inside from big
>server land. [Please feel free to ping me directly]
>
>Our OU structure sucks. We know that. But ...boy ... you ain't
>ripping my fingers off RWW or my monitoring email. :-)
>
>Michael B. Smith wrote:
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>
>>And that is a real difficulty.
>>
>>The wizards should integrate seamlessly. Or the other tools should
>>integrate seamlessly. Take your pick.
>>
>>I've got a couple of hundred client companies, probably 3 or 4 use SBS.
>>I HATE touching the SBS clients because it's a fair bet there is a
>>wizard for something that I'm not going to use a wizard for, because I
>>can use one of my scripts or a native tool and do it quicker. (You can
>>argue that someone that knows the wizards can do it more quickly with
>>them -- and that's fine -- but I don't, and shouldn't have to.)
>>
>>It's a religious issue.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
>>Bradley,
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:19 PM
>>To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)
>>
>>Difficulty?
>>
>>
>>
>>What difficulty? [please feel free to take this offline] the only
>>difficult issues we have in SBSland is cleaning up the messes from
>>folks that don't follow the wizards....
>>
>>al_maurer@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>>>Thanks! This must be SBS Week. Was at a user's group meeting last
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>night and the topic came up again. (Main topic was R2) Sounds like
>>Microsoft is getting the message about the difficulty of working with
>>SBS.
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>>
>>>Al Maurer
>>>Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information
>>>Technology Agilent Technologies
>>>(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639
>>>http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
>>>----------------------------------------------
>>>"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Caesar III i.
>>
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>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
>>>Bradley,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
>>>CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:57 PM
>>>To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)
>>>
>>>Transition pack or www.sbsmigration.com
>>>
>>>Transition pack is the best way however lets you keep the Remote web
>>>workplace and monitoring email even after you break away from SBSland.
>>>
>>>al_maurer@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>>>
>>>>OK, since the topic came up: I'm trying to figure out how to
>>>>migrate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>off SBS2003.
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>>>>Scenario is a recent acquisition where we want to migrate from
>>>>company
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>SBS to corporate AD (standard 2003 domain). Trusts are out. Hack is
>>both dangerous and illegal.
>>
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>>
>>>>MS offers a Transition Pack (for a cost) to upgrade the SBS2003 to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>normal AD. Is there any other way? LDIF export?
>>
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>>>>Thanks,
>>>>AL
>>>>
>>>>Al Maurer
>>>>Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information
>>>>Technology Agilent Technologies
>>>>(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639
>>>>http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
>>>>----------------------------------------------
>>>>"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>Caesar III i.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>[mailto:ActiveDir-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
>>>>Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:06 PM
>>>>To: ActiveDir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS Server Question
>>>>
>>>>Nope. No trusts, no forests. We're the spoiled only PDC that must
>>>>hold all the FSMO roles. We can do some funky stuff with pass
>>>>through
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>authentication, but no trusts.
>>>>
>>>>US versus THEM:
>>>>http://www.sbslinks.com/Us_v_them.htm
>>>>
>>>>In SBS 2000/2003 the 'correct' terminology is Yes, an 'additional
>>>>domain controller' is supported and not calling it a BDC.
>>>>
>>>>Member servers are covered by the SBS cals but last I read in the
>>>>PUR
>>>>
>>>>
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>
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>>>>the additional DC would need server cals. [that's my interpretation
>>>>anyway but I get a headache reading that doc in the first place]
>>>>
>>>>Honestly ...keep in mind that with XPs, they will used cached
>>>>credentials and you can log into that profile even if the network is
>>>>down. Now comes the fun... who's doing the DHCP? The recommended
>>>>way
>>>>
>>>>
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>
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>>>>is to have the SBS box to do that...so you still have fun. If the
>>>>SBS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>box goes down, I normally have ways around the temporarily failure
>>>>[and even then I can count on one hand the time my network has been
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>affected....
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>>>>power mostly, then NICs, then switches, and one harddrive falling
>>>>off
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>a RAID. Get good equipment [and honestly either reinstall those
>>>>OEMs
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>and stay away from those preinstalled versions] and we do just fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Medeiros, Jose wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Susan,
>>>>>
>>>>>Since we have an SBS MVP on the Active Dir list, let me ask a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>question.
>>
>>
>>
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>>>>>Can I now make an SBS 2003 server a child domain in an AD 2003
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>forest?
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>>>>>Before you ask why, some one asked me this recently at a Linux
>>>>>users
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>group meeting, as his company has several remote offices using SBS
>>
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>2003.
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>>>>>Also on SBS 4.5, one could have a BDC as a backup, can this also be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>done with a DC or are you " Sh.T out of luck " when a box fails?
>>
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>>
>>
>>>>>Jose
>>>>>
>>>>>
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